hagel is very much in the mainstream of american foreign policy." your thoughts on that? >> i think it was difficult in watching the hearings to understand why the obama administration has expended as much capital on him, frankly. i mean, i think if i was trying to imagine if hillary clinton or michelle florida had seemed as unprepared as he had been. yes, the senate was grandstanding. >> we agree, right? >> let's just say that he had eight weeks to prepare for these kinds of grandstanding attacks, fair or unfair, and he has seemed completely blindsided by them. i mean, we haven't even mentioned the fact that he had to be passed a note about the policy on iran containment. that he misstated the administration's policy. i mean, yes, he is going to be confirmed. no one was particularly excited even the people who were in his camp when it comes to defense spending. >> i mean, the main reason for this nomination was to stick a finger in john mccain's eye. they have succeeded in that. >> do you really think that? >> i don't think it's between obama and hagel. >> not the only -